Re: [Ietf-and-github] Rules regarding ownership of orgs

["STARK, BARBARA H" <[e-mail]>]

> From: Martin Thomson
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, at 03:30, Salz, Rich wrote:
> > >    Isn't that a split between organizational owner vs admins?
> >
> > I could well be wrong here.  HOWEVER, it seems likely that the WG
> > chair will be creating the organization, and therefore be an owner.
> > There's lots of room for customization and tweaks (GitHub
> > bikeshedding?), and the draft doesn't suggest how to do *everything.*
> > Tools like Martin's, or my scripts, help codify things, but the WG
> > chair still has, rightly so, a great deal of leverage to set up the GH
> > organization as they see fit.  Those things together indicate, to me, that
> they need to own the
> > organization and repo's within it.
> 
> My understanding is that members can create repos (unless you specifically
> disable that).
> 
> But it is also the case that you can't do things like enable CI without being an
> owner. So I'm inclined to more strongly recommend ownership by chairs.
> Chairs that don't own the org can always ask for support, but I see no reason
> not to have this more decentralized and to give chairs more autonomy (that
> is the practice today and that works well).
> 
> So...
> 
> > GitHub requires that each organization have at least one owner.  The
> owners for a Working Group repository MUST include responsible Area
> Directors and the IETF Secretariat.  Working Group chairs and Area Directors
> in the area SHOULD also be included as owners.  Area Directors MAY also
> designate a delegate that becomes an owner.  An organization MUST have at
> least 2 owners.

Thanks. I was getting a bit worried with suggestions that Chairs were only "MAY". In my experience, Chairs are the ones who end up doing most of the work managing and overseeing the GitHub account. The Secretariat and ADs are or should be just for continuity.
Barbara