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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
CC: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, "ietf-and-github@ietf.org," <ietf-and-github@ietf.org>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] Rules regarding ownership of orgs
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If the consensus is that it is okay for the Secretariat to be owner of all of the WG repos, then I suggest the list of owners be:
 MUST Secretariat & Responsible AD (which automatically enforces a minimum of 2)
 MAY WG chairs & other ADs for the area.

Regards,
Rob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
> Sent: 17 March 2020 19:12
> To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>
> Cc: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>; Rob Wilton (rwilton)
> <rwilton@cisco.com>; ietf-and-github@ietf.org, <ietf-and-github@ietf.org>;
> Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] Rules regarding ownership of orgs
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:01 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
> >
> > There was one comment about giving too much power to the secretariat.
> 
> Yes, thank you, I did see that -- I just happen to disagree. The
> secretariat are (currently) the group which acts like sysadmins / root for
> the IETF / IESG - they add and remove ADs in the DT, they can reset
> passwords, they verify that the process was actually followed[0], etc.
> 
> > The main point of this thread is *NOT* about that, but rather making
> sure there's continuity by having enough people.
> 
> Yup - and I think that the secretariat is the "continuity" - they are
> (currently) the stable group within the IEFT - ADs come and go, but the
> secretariat (role) remains - I'd think having 2 or 3 secretariat role
> accounts is better, and more secure, than having 15ADs each with a subset,
> and rotating them in and out.
> W
> [0]: It doesn't happen very often any more, but it used to be at least
> somewhat common that an AD would accidentally click the wrong dropdown in
> the DT, and put a document in IESG eval before IETF LC, or similar.
> The secretariat would smack our hands, and fix it...
> 
> >
> > I've been told by folks who are looking at the backup requirement, that
> it requires an owner account (which was a surprise to me and I will verify
> it).
> >
> 
> 
> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea
> in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
> pants.
>    ---maf

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