Re: [Ietf-and-github] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-git-using-github-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 00:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] Warren Kumari's Discuss on
draft-ietf-git-using-github-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:39 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote: > > > > On 12 Mar 2020, at 11:27 am, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > > > > I agree with Martin here: the point of having this go through a WG and > consensus is that we think that if you are using Github this is a good set > of practices and that we recommend them in that case. So while it's at > their discretion that doesn't mean we don't have an opinion. > > Sure. But the document doesn't say it's at their discretion; it says that > it's Best Current Practice for any WG that uses GitHub, and asserts a lot > of MUSTs about them. The charter language is very specific for a reason; > this was discussed in depth, and there were multiple assurances that WGs > would "opt in" to this document. > You seem to be complaining about two separate things: 1. That it says it's Best Current Practice 2. That it's not sufficiently clear it's optional. I think that (2) is implicit in the following text: The main purpose of this document is providing guidelines for how Working Groups might integrate the capabilities provided by GitHub into their processes for developing Internet-Drafts. However, I wouldn't object to making it clearer. Perhaps: "The choice of whether to use Github or whether to adopt these practices if they do is at the discretion of the WG". However, I would be sad to see us back off the claim that it's best current practice, because, as I said, that's the point of having a WG. -Ekr > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > >
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