Re: [Ietf-and-github] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-git-using-github-04

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 10/03/2020 à 11:47, Kjetil Torgrim Homme a écrit :
> On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 11:29 +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>> Le 10/03/2020 à 07:05, Kjetil Torgrim Homme a écrit :
>>> - despite my efforts of explaining, people still prefer to
>>>> exchange
>>>> the files by email.  This feedback is from working with several
>>>> groups on several xml drafts on several github repositories.
>>>
>>> both Github and Gitlab have good web based editors which can
>>> recommended to Git skeptics
>>
>> I heard that skepticism from many people in a hurry.  They dont have
>> time to get imposed some rule.
>>
>> It is difficult to understand some parts of the github behaviours.
>>
>> Especially by those who do shared document processing by using other
>> document sharing tools like github.
>>
>> This is the gist of it: having a beautiful modern web interface,
>> makes one think that GitHub easily supports things like uploading a
>> document. It is not the case.  There is no button on the web to
>> Upload a file.
> 
> it is right up there in the file browser in Github,
> 
>    [Create new file] [Upload files] [Find File]

'Find file' is a term that means to open a file, if expressed in Mac, or 
it means to search and find a file if expressed in Windows.  It is 
misleading.

The particular need is the following: I want to download the file.  I do 
not want to display it first and only then download it.  It is too long.

So, I think my need is the following: I want a big visible button on 
github to quickly download a file, and not to have to go through 
numerous other buttons first.

Then, I want to update a file, not to upload a new one.

The fact that there are is no straight button to update a file leads to 
generation of many files in the same folder.  I upload a file with -AP 
in name, others put theirs, and we end up with too many files.

> in Gitlab there is a generic [+ v] dropdown menu to upload a new file,
> create a new branch etc.
> 
> there is also the concept of gist (Github) and snippet (Gitlab) which
> is for more informal sharing of files, think pastebin on steroids.
> 
>>   Not even to Download a file.
> 
> well, that is slightly less obvious, I'll grant you that - the button
> is called [Raw] in Github, which you may have to Control click to get
> the file download dialog.  in Gitlab there is a separate download icon
> (an arrow pointing down into a tray).

Thank you for the explanation.  I did not know that.  I think  I might 
need to put it in my howto.

Alex

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