Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form

[John Cowan <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:40 PM Sebastian Drude <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Thanks also for your interest in ISO TC 21636.  It is not yet official,
> and I am not sure whether if I am entitled to share it, so I will give a
> very brief summary:
>

Thank you very much for this.

> The eight dimensions we identified for the purposes of standardized coding:
>
>    1. Space (dialects & over-regional standard varieties)
>    2. Time (epochs, periods, stages)
>    3. Social group (sociolects, including more specific technolects)
>
> People do, however, belong to more than one social group.  My daughter
speaks Standard English with me and AAVE with her friends, for example,
even in the same conversation.  Neither would be appropriate for all
circumstances.  The same is true of people who command both a local Arabic
variety and Modern Standard Arabic.  Both of these are usually thought of
as sociolects.

4. Medium (modalities: oral/multimodal, written, signed, whistled,
> drummed...)
> 5. Situation (registers, e.g. of different formality, including genres
> and the like)
>

I normally think of technolects as belonging here with the registers.  See
Peter Trudgill's classic "Standard English: What it isn't", available at <
https://lagb-education.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/SEtrudgill2011.pdf>.

> 6. Person (“personal varieties” ~ elswhere sometimes called “idiolects”)
> 7. Proficiency (learner varieties)
> 8. Communicative functioning (constrained communicative functioning
> varieties, 'anomalies'
>

[...]

> 3. The academic middle class sociolect, more specifically the technolect
> of linguistics (social group)
>

I'm using that too, and it happens to be the only one I command: but see my
daughter above.



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