Re: [Ietf-languages] Language variant subtag "tongyong" addition request (for Mandarin Chinese romanization) (Resubmission)

Another Chinese romanization scheme, the Pinyin romanization, have already
been registered as a variant subtag in the language subtag registry. To
keep in line with that, it would be better to also register the Tongyong
Pinyin subtag as variant subtag instead of a T-transformation subtag.

Also, unlike transliteration schemes like ungegn or alaloc where their main
purposes are to transliterate foreign script content into latin script, the
main purpose of Pinyin or Tongyong Pinyin system, other than to provide a
transliteration system, they also act as ways to denote pronunciation of
Chinese characters in the Mandarin Chinese language for the use by speakers
of the language, since Chinese characters themselves does not carry the
pronunciation information.

在 2020年5月20日週三 21:46，Sascha Brawer <sascha@brawer.ch> 寫道：

> Instead of a BCP47 variant tag, would it be an option to register a
> BCP 47 extension T
> transform tag at Unicode CLDFR? This would be similar to the existing
> registered tags for
> other transliteration schemes such as alaloc, bgn, buckwalt, ungegn, etc.
> Your full BCP47 language tag would then look like
> “zh-Latn-t-zh-m0-tongyong”.
>
> For background about BCP47 extension T, see
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6497.
> To go this route, file a CLDR ticket:
> http://cldr.unicode.org/index/bug-reports#TOC-File-a-Ticket
> asking to add a tag for Tongyong to this file:
> https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/master/common/bcp47/transform.xml
>
> — Sascha
>
> Am Mi., 20. Mai 2020 um 15:21 Uhr schrieb Phake Nick <c933103@gmail.com>:
> >
> > This request is a resubmission of a similar request from January 2019,
> with a few changes including additional reference links (Thanks to Doug
> Ewell's help) and also removed hak/nan prefix from the request (While
> Tongyong romanization system for the two languages have been created
> published, the amount of people using them seems minimal and thus it's
> probably betternot to conflate the subtag with the version of system for
> those languages)
> >
> > 1. Name of requester: Phake Nick
> >
> > 2. E-mail address of requester: c933103 at gmail.com
> >
> > 3. Record Requested:
> >
> > Type: variant
> > Subtag: tongyong
> > Description: Tongyong Pinyin romanization
> > Prefix: zh-Latn
> > Comments: Former official transcription standard for Mandarin Chinese in
> Taiwan.
> >
> > 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: Indicate Romanized content that use
> > Tongyong pinyin romanization
> >
> > 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or
> > article):
> >
> > a. "Guidelines of Using Chinese Phonetic Spelling", published by the
> > government of Taiwan in 2002.
> > http://www.rootlaw.com.tw/LawContent.aspx?LawID=A040030001010900-1000310
> >
> > b. "Hanyu Pinyin to be standard system in 2009". Shih Hsiu-Chuan. In
> > Taipei Times, 2008-09-18.
> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2008/09/18/2003423528
> >
> > c. "Lost in Romanisation". In The Economist, 2014-06-07.
> > https://www.economist.com/asia/2014/06/07/lost-in-romanisation
> >
> > 6. Any other relevant information: The Tongyong Pinyin transcription
> standard was official in Taiwan in the mid-2000s. It has now been displaced
> by Pinyin romanization as the official transcription rule for Chinese
> languages in Taiwan, however it is still continually being used to a
> certain extent within Taiwan and thus it would be helpful to have a variant
> subtag to separate it from Pinyin Romanization.
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