Re: [Ietf-languages] adjectival usage of variant subtags

Mark Davis ☕️ <mark@macchiato.com> Fri, 11 December 2020 22:32 UTC

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From: Mark Davis ☕️ <mark@macchiato.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:31:30 -0800
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To: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
Cc: Peter Constable <pgcon6@msn.com>, ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org>, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>, Sebastian Drude <drude@xs4all.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] adjectival usage of variant subtags
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Ah, good point.

Mark


On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:00 PM Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> wrote:

> Mark Davis wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately there isn't a formal mechanism with variants to add
> > descriptions of combinations, such as:
> >
> > ku-northern : also known as  Kurmanji
>
> There can always be multiple Comments fields:
>
> Type: variant
> Subtag: northern
> Description: <some suitably general description>
> Added: 20xx-xx-xx
> Comments: "ku-northern" is also known as Kurmanji
> Comments: "qa-northern" is also known as This
> Comments: "qb-northern" is also known as That
> ...
>
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> Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
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