Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636

Sebastian Drude <drude@xs4all.nl> Tue, 08 December 2020 19:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636
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That may be a good interim solution, Peter, thanks,

but I still believe that there must be more sustainable ways.

Best, Sebastian

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On 07/12/2020 20:40, Peter Constable wrote:
> Perhaps as Unicode liaison to TC37/SC2, I should post the draft to the UTC doc register for consideration of Unicode members...
>
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> From: Ietf-languages <ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Doug Ewell
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:54 PM
> To: 'Sebastian Drude' <drude@xs4all.nl>; ietf-languages@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636
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> Sebastian Drude wrote:
>
>>> I don’t think it would be helpful to establish a liaison with IETF
>>> proper, that is to say, Area Directors and above. They have little to
>>> no idea what this group does.
>>>
>>> Michael and I are IETF Designated Experts for BCP 47. I wonder if SC2
>>> would consider that.
>> That is a good question, Michael,
> Doug :)
>
>> although I am not sure what exactly 'consider' means, in this context.
>> What would be the goal, that you as individual experts enter into a
>> special realtionship with ISO TC37/SC2?
> That's kind of what I meant, I guess. Perhaps other experts from this list could participate as well. The list at large is not really a committee with a fixed membership that could itself constitute a liaison group. And again, IETF leadership would not have any idea where to begin with this project.
>
>> I did not conclude my first experience with getting an institution
>> (CLARIN) to be a ISO liaison, so I really do not have much expertise
>> here how to proceed.  I will consult with colleagues within ISO.
> That would be helpful. The proposal has a stated goal of being interoperable with BCP 47, but BCP 47 experts are not allowed to view it or provide constructive feedback that could facilitate that interoperability. That doesn't feel much like a plan for success.
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