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Re: [Ietf-languages] Suggestion to update Urdu Script Designation in the subtag registry

Peter Constable <pgcon6@msn.com> Wed, 12 August 2020 19:57 UTC

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From: Peter Constable <pgcon6@msn.com>
To: Daniel LaVon Billings <daniel=40ChurchofJesusChrist.org@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf-languages@ietf.org" <ietf-languages@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Suggestion to update Urdu Script Designation in the subtag registry
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Suggestion to update Urdu Script Designation in the subtag registry
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If the proposal is to the Suppress-Script value for the ur language entry, then I definitely disagree.

In general, I'm not sure why script-variant IDs like Aran or Latg exist in ISO 15924 at all, and I'm not aware of any application contexts in which they are actually used. For any languages written using Arabic script, including languages in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, I think it's generally likely that applications would use tags with a script subtag Arab or else without any script subtag. And changing the Suppress-Script field for ur would likely break some applications that would expect tags of the form "ur-Arab" were it not for the current Suppress-Script value.

If it were allowed, I wouldn't have objected to adding a second Suppress-Script field with Aran. But RFC5646 only permits one Suppress-Script field.


Peter

From: Ietf-languages <ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Daniel LaVon Billings
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:56 AM
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Subject: [Ietf-languages] Suggestion to update Urdu Script Designation in the subtag registry

Urdu is listed as Arab script reference in the subtag registry when it should have the newer approved Aran designation:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org%2Fassignments%2Flanguage-subtag-registry%2Flanguage-subtag-registry&data=02%7C01%7C%7C474b1783d597405620a608d83ef45726%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637328566431979306&sdata=Aqs%2FaRTTuH5TxwkwPvdsE8nT60U2YBnpq6D1wBz%2FC6E%3D&reserved=0>

Urdu should be using the Aran script, not the Arab script:

%%
Type: language
Subtag: ur
Description: Urdu
Added: 2005-10-16
Suppress-Script: Arab
%%


%%

Type: script

Subtag: Aran

Description: Arabic (Nastaliq variant)

Added: 2014-12-11

%%

How can we get the subtag registry to be updated?

Daniel Billings |  Internationalization and Translation Systems Manager
Language Services and Area Support
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