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Re: [Ietf-languages] Language tag for Han pinyin

Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com> Sun, 29 May 2022 01:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Language tag for Han pinyin
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On Fri, 27 May 2022 19:01:14 -0700
Mark Davis ☕️ <mark@macchiato.com> wrote:

> It is safer to use zh-Latn-pinyin, because a lot of implementations
> ignore the variants.

I think you may have left something out.  If variants are simply
ignored. then zh-Latn-pinyin is no better than zh-Latn, over which
cmn-Latn is recommended.  Do you mean that variants might be ignored
when the preceding subtags are not documented as suitable?

Richard.

> 
> Mark (📱)
> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2022, 16:55 John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM Richard Wordingham
> > <richard.wordingham= 40ntlworld.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:  
> >
> > In accordance with BCP 47, is the complete tag "cmn-Latn-pinyin"  
> >> supposed to be suitable for Mandarin in Han pinyin?  
> >
> >
> > Yes, that is suitable.
> >  
> >> My qualm is that
> >> the variant tag should have prefix "zh-Latn" when used for Chinese,
> >>  
> >
> > Prefixes associated with a variant subtag are permissive and
> > informative only.
> >
> > which suggests, contrary to other recommendations, that one should  
> >> rather use "zh-cmn-Latn-pinyin".  Do we perhaps need to add another
> >> prefix to this and similar variants?
> >>  
> >
> > We could add "cmn" and "cmn-Latn" as prefixes, yes, but we are not
> > required to do so.
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