Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form

[Sebastian Drude <[e-mail]>]

Hi everyone,

this is the first time I reply directly to such a request, please 
forgive me if I do mistakes or do not know the correct procedures.

I agree with the proposal; it makes sense to me to have a subtag for 
this variety of Esperanto.

I only do not agree with the characterization as a "Sociolect" -- a 
variety of a language which is characteristic for a certain (social) 
group within the whole speaker community.  As the applicant explains, 
the same speakers/writers may use it in the same text, so this is 
(according to the upcoming ISO TC 21636) clearly some kind of 
*register*, not a sociolect.

Which brings us back to the question of how in the future the 8 
dimensions identified in ISO TC 21636 can be reflected/applied in the 
current frameworks, in particular BCP 47).  Are there members of this 
group who would like to participate with me in a working group that 
would work out proposals for that?

(Now I see that in point (4) of the proporal 'Arcaicam Esperantom' is 
also correctly identified as such, so the characterization as sociolect 
in (3) is probably a mistake or misunderstanding.)

Best wishes,

Sebastian

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On 23/11/2020 19:15, Ben Scarborough wrote:
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
> 1. Name of requester: Ben Scarborough
> 2. E-mail address of requester: scarboroughben[at]gmail.com
> 3. Record Requested:
>
>     Type: variant
>     Subtag: arcaicam
>     Description: Arcaicam Esperantom
>     Prefix: eo
>     Preferred-Value:
>     Deprecated:
>     Suppress-Script:
>     Macrolanguage:
>     Comments: "Archaic" Esperanto sociolect defined by Manuel Halvelik
>
> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
>     Arcaicam Esperantom (Arkaika Esperanto) is a modern-made "archaic" register
>     of Esperanto, meant to be the literary equivalent of lines or phrases in an
>     old language such as Latin or Middle English embedded in what would otherwise
>     be modern text. It features minor but nontrivial changes to vocabulary,
>     grammar, and spelling. It is not meant as an overhaul of nor as a
>     replacement for Esperanto.
>
> 5. Reference to published description
>     of the language (book or article):
>     Halvelik, Manuel. "Arkaika Esperanto: La verda pralingvo." 2010 edition.
>     http://www.universala-esperanto.net/index_htm_files/Arkaika%20Esperanto.pdf
>
> 6. Any other relevant information:
>     Because Arcaicam Esperantom uses different orthographic rules, the existing
>     'hsistemo' and 'xsistemo' subtags would not have any relevant meaning in
>     conjunction with the proposed 'arcaicam' subtag.
>
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