Re: [Ietf-languages] [EXTERNAL] Re: language identifiers for sign languages (incl. sgn) vs. attribute for indicating the representation of an individual language in "sign language modality"

John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> Sat, 30 November 2019 20:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] [EXTERNAL] Re: language identifiers for sign languages (incl. sgn) vs. attribute for indicating the representation of an individual language in "sign language modality"
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 2:17 PM Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>; wrote:

English and Signed English (of any flavor), of course, are another matter.
>

I understand David to be saying that it doesn't matter if a signed video is
ASL or SEE: one is no more intelligible to English-speakers than the
other.  And I replied (in effect) that if your native language is Haitian
Creole and you're illiterate, it won't matter to you if a written document
is in Haitian Creole or Standard French.

David's .sig line:


> Kie ekzistas vivo, ekzistas espero.
>

I meant to mention before that that seems very artificial and impersonal to
me.  What's wrong with "Dum mi vivas, mi esperas", a straight translation
of "Dum spiro spero"?



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