Re: Language Subtag Registration
Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> Wed, 28 October 2015 21:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: Language Subtag Registration
From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
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> Am 29.10.2015 um 03:10 schrieb Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>: > > LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM > > 1. Name of requester: Michael Everson > 2. E-mail address of requester: everson @ evertype.com > 3. Record Requested: > > Type: variant > Subtag: wpsimple > Description: Wikipedia Simple English > Prefix: en Assume somebody creates a simple French wikipedia. The new variant then would be: Type: variant Subtag: wpsimplefr Description: Wikipedia Simple French Prefix: fr Since there is no relation between simple english and simple french. So we would have wbsimple, denoting simple English wbsimplefr, denoting simple French The usage of wbsimple for simple English then does not sound suitable. Best, Felix > > 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: > > The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language used on http://simple.wikipedia.org. This language is a mix of Basic English, VOA Special English, and some more guidelines. > > 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): > > Wikipedia:Simple English Wikipedia https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia > > Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages > > 6. Any other relevant information: > > Problem: The Simple English Wikipedia uses "simple" for the domain (simple.wikipedia.org) and "en" for its language. This is a problem because: > * The domain is different from the language code. > * The language code is the same as in the English Wikipedia. > > These two problems definitely create several issues for the ContentTranslation extension and possibly other components. It's possible to work around them, but it's better to straighten things out by changing the language code. > > This will lead to en-wpsimple.wikipedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-languages mailing list > Ietf-languages@alvestrand.no > http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages
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- RE: Language Subtag Registration Doug Ewell
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- Re: Language Subtag Registration Felix Sasaki
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Doug Ewell
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Doug Ewell
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- Re: Language Subtag Registration Felix Sasaki
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- Re: Cornu English: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Felix Sasaki
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Kent Karlsson
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Kent Karlsson
- RE: Language Subtag Registration Peter Constable
- Re: Language Subtag Registration John Cowan
- RE: Language Subtag Registration Phillips, Addison
- Re: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Simple: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration David Starner
- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration Michael Everson
- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration John Cowan
- RE: Simple: Language Subtag Registration Peter Constable
- RE: Simple: Language Subtag Registration Peter Constable
- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration John Cowan
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- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration Kent Karlsson
- Re: Simple: Language Subtag Registration John Cowan
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