Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form
Hugh Paterson III <sil.linguist@gmail.com> Wed, 25 November 2020 07:52 UTC
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From: Hugh Paterson III <sil.linguist@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:52:20 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form
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FYI: register is a problematic term from a linguistic perspective. There are at least three senses of the term. The first as it is used here is a social register in which language a or language b is chosen, the second is in southEast Asian languages where word forms differ based on register - which may also have social applications of use, and third in register tier theory, a phonological theory of tone analysis. So in general, the word seems to be over loaded, and should IMO be avoided. - Hugh Paterson III On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:53 AM Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> wrote: > Ben Scarborough wrote: > > > I will gladly amend my form if the opinion is that "sociolect" is not > > a suitable term to use here. > > Just for the record, we aren't absolutely required to wrap ourselves > around this axle. For example, the line could simply read: > > Comments: "Archaic" Esperanto variety defined by Manuel Halvelik > > It's just a comment, after all. > > -- > Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-languages mailing list > Ietf-languages@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages > -- All the best, -Hugh Sent from my iPhone Paris, France
- [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form Ben Scarborough
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Ben Scarborough
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Ben Scarborough
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Hugh Paterson III
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Phake Nick
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Phake Nick
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Hugh Paterson III
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Mark Davis ☕️
- [Ietf-languages] ISO 21636 Dimensions (was: Langu… Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO 21636 Dimensions Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Michael Everson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Michael Everson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO 21636 Dimensions Hugh Paterson III
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO TR 21636 Dimensions Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO TR 21636 Dimensions Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO TR 21636 Dimensions Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO TR 21636 Dimensions Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] ISO TR 21636 Dimensions Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Ben Scarborough