Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registrFroation form: Inuktun

Mark Davis ☕️ <mark@macchiato.com> Sun, 21 June 2020 21:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registrFroation form: Inuktun
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That's premature at this point. They must go to ISO 639 first, and the bar
is quite high if they fail at ISO.

Cf.

3.6 <https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.html#section-3.6>.
Possibilities for Registration

   Possibilities for registration of subtags or information about
   subtags include:

   o  Primary language subtags for languages not listed in ISO 639 that
      are not variants of any listed or registered language MAY be
      registered.  At the time this document was created, there were no
      examples of this form of subtag.  Before attempting to register a
      language subtag, there MUST be an attempt to register the language


Phillips & Davis         Best Current Practice                 [Page 46]

------------------------------

RFC 5646 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5646>
Language Tags                September 2009


      with ISO 639.  Subtags MUST NOT be registered for languages
      defined by codes that exist in ISO 639-1, ISO 639-2, or ISO 639-3;
      that are under consideration by the ISO 639 registration
      authorities; or that have never been attempted for registration
      with those authorities.  If ISO 639 has previously rejected a
      language for registration, it is reasonable to assume that there
      must be additional, very compelling evidence of need before it
      will be registered as a primary language subtag in the IANA
      registry (to the extent that it is very unlikely that any subtags
      will be registered of this type).



Mark


On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 2:15 PM Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
wrote:

> Should the subtag not be “inuktun”?
>
> > On 21 Jun 2020, at 20:46, Leon Derczynski <leod@itu.dk> wrote:
> >
> > For the Inuktun language of Greenland.
> >
> >
> > LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
> >  1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski
> >  2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk
> >  3. Record Requested:
> >
> >     Type: language
> >     Subtag: inu
> >     Description: Inuktun
> >     Description: Avanersuarmiutut
> >     Description: Nordgrønlandsk
> >     Macrolanguage: iu
> >
> >  4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> >    The Inuktun language, spoken by the Inughuit who inhabit Qaanaaq and
> >    environs in Northern Greenland. The language is an Eskimo–Aleut
> language
> >    and dialectologically it is in between the Greenlandic Kalaallisut and
> >    the Canadian Inuktitut. Inuktun differs from Kalaallisut in phonology,
> >    consonant combinations, grammar and orthography.
> >
> >  5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):
> >     Wikipedia entry:
> >       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuktun
> >     Fortescue, Michael, 1991, Inuktun: an introduction to the language of
> >       Qaanaaq, Thule, Institut for Eskimologi 15, Københavns Universitet
> >     Erik Holtved. Remarks on the Polar Eskimo Dialect. International
> Journal
> >       of American Linguistics. Vol. 18, No. 1 (Jan., 1952), pp. 20-24
> >     Present on Glottolog:
> >       https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/pola1254
> >
> >  6. Any other relevant information:
> >    The Greenlandic name and Danish name (the region in which the language
> >    is spoken being part of Denmark) are given as second and third
> >    descriptions.
> >    Macrolanguage is a suggestion; there is "multiple inheritance" with
> other
> >    Aleut languages.
> >
> >
> >
> > Natural Language Processing, Department of Computer Science
> > IT University of Copenhagen  http://www.derczynski.com/itu/  +45 5157
> 4948
> >
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