Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for ISO 639-3 changes: part 4

[CE Whitehead <[e-mail]>]

Thanks for taking the trouble to make all these "nit" changes; I hope I get time to look more carefully over the rest of the changes!

Best,
--C. E. Whitehead
[e-mail]

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De : Ietf-languages <[e-mail]> de la part de Doug Ewell <[e-mail]>
Envoyé : lundi 14 février 2022 11:54
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Objet : Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for ISO 639-3 changes: part 4

I received some comments over the weekend. As a general note, it's best to send comments and corrections to the list, not to me personally. As it turned out, I was out of town and busy this weekend, so a detailed email response was not practical. Someone else on the list might have been able to address these comments.

> Regarding the subtag: [env]:
>
> "This registration tracks a change made to ISO 639-3 effective
> 2022-01-20, changing the reference name for 'env' from "Enwan (Edu
> State)" to "Enwan (Edo State)". (Note correction in spelling of
> state.)"
>
> Can you change the last sentence to read instead, "(Note correction in
> spelling of state name.")" -- since it is not the word "state" that
> has been corrected, but "Edu" has changed to "Edo"?

Although I doubt anyone would have been confused, this is an easy update to make and doesn't affect the two-week review period. The updated form is in the bottom section of this post. Note that this change is only to an explanatory field in the registration form, and won't affect what goes into the Registry.

> Also, a change was adopted --
> "2021-020
> aeb
> Tunisian Arabic
> Denotation Tunisian Arabic
> update by including [ajt] Judeo-Tunisian
> Arabic"
> ***
> Should there be an entry for this? I do not see it!

The Summary of Outcomes document listed this change in two places: in part 1, where [ajt] was retired, and in part 4, where [aeb] had its denotation expanded accordingly. We don't directly reflect the denotation change in the Registry. The fact that 'ajt' will have a Preferred-Value of 'aeb' takes care of this. No additional form or change is needed.

> A "nit"
> -- regarding [iba] -- which now includes [snb] -- should not the old
> reference name "Iban" be mentioned in the note?:
> "This registration tracks a change made to ISO 639-3 effective
> 2022-01-20, merging 'snb' for Sebuyau into 'iba'."
>
> Thanks! (If so, then the same would apply to the next subtag, [ksp]
> which now includes [lak], and to [kmb] which now includes [smd])

The Summary of Outcomes document listed each of these changes in only ONE place: in part 4, where [iba] and [ksp] and [kmb] now include [snb] and [lak] and [smd] respectively. The changes in the Registry, as I mentioned at the top of the Part 4 post, are to deprecate the subtags in the second group, which is what I have done with 'snb' and 'lak' and 'smd'.

I have updated these three registration forms to include the name of each Preferred-Value language under item 6, as well as the subtag value. Note again that these changes don't affect the review period, and won't go into the Registry. Note also that the Description fields for the "surviving" subtags are easily found by looking in the Registry.

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Doug Ewell
2. E-mail address of requester: doug at ewellic.org

3. Record Requested:

Type: language
Subtag: env
Description: Enwan (Edo State)

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

6. Any other relevant information:

This registration tracks a change made to ISO 639-3 effective
2022-01-20, changing the reference name for 'env' from "Enwan (Edu
State)" to "Enwan (Edo State)". (Note correction in spelling of state
name.)

For more information on the ISO 639-3 change, refer to:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiso639-3.sil.org%2Fsites%2Fiso639-3%2Ffiles%2Freports%2F639-3_ChangeRequests_2021_Summary.pdf&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8221debd20e740d51f8008d9efdac032%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637804545084808980%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=9kRSc%2BMHcxVMdnOWLafKs23sy086Tqa0nm6VNdU1wek%3D&amp;reserved=0

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Doug Ewell
2. E-mail address of requester: doug at ewellic.org

3. Record Requested:

Type: language
Subtag: snb
Description: Sebuyau
Deprecated: 2022-02-25
Preferred-Value: iba

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

6. Any other relevant information:

This registration tracks a change made to ISO 639-3 effective
2022-01-20, merging 'snb' for Sebuyau into 'iba' ("Iban").

For more information on the ISO 639-3 change, refer to:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiso639-3.sil.org%2Fsites%2Fiso639-3%2Ffiles%2Freports%2F639-3_ChangeRequests_2021_Summary.pdf&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8221debd20e740d51f8008d9efdac032%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637804545084965224%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=E8PTxrNzNMsUKDo%2FeFpnfj3qcEWhmXWysPIz4J%2FItk4%3D&amp;reserved=0
This change is mentioned indirectly, in the context of expanding the
denotation of 'iba' to include 'snb'.

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Doug Ewell
2. E-mail address of requester: doug at ewellic.org

3. Record Requested:

Type: language
Subtag: lak
Description: Laka (Nigeria)
Deprecated: 2022-02-25
Preferred-Value: ksp

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

6. Any other relevant information:

This registration tracks a change made to ISO 639-3 effective
2022-01-20, merging 'lak' for Laka (Nigeria) into 'ksp' ("Kaba").

For more information on the ISO 639-3 change, refer to:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiso639-3.sil.org%2Fsites%2Fiso639-3%2Ffiles%2Freports%2F639-3_ChangeRequests_2021_Summary.pdf&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8221debd20e740d51f8008d9efdac032%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637804545084965224%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=E8PTxrNzNMsUKDo%2FeFpnfj3qcEWhmXWysPIz4J%2FItk4%3D&amp;reserved=0
This change is mentioned indirectly, in the context of expanding the
denotation of 'ksp' to include 'lak'.

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Doug Ewell
2. E-mail address of requester: doug at ewellic.org

3. Record Requested:

Type: language
Subtag: smd
Description: Sama
Deprecated: 2022-02-25
Preferred-Value: kmb

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

6. Any other relevant information:

This registration tracks a change made to ISO 639-3 effective
2022-01-20, merging 'smd' for Sama into 'kmb' ("Kimbundu").

For more information on the ISO 639-3 change, refer to:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiso639-3.sil.org%2Fsites%2Fiso639-3%2Ffiles%2Freports%2F639-3_ChangeRequests_2021_Summary.pdf&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8221debd20e740d51f8008d9efdac032%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637804545084965224%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=E8PTxrNzNMsUKDo%2FeFpnfj3qcEWhmXWysPIz4J%2FItk4%3D&amp;reserved=0
This change is mentioned indirectly, in the context of expanding the
denotation of 'kmb' to include 'smd'.


--
Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Lakewood, CO, US | ewellic.org


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