Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt
Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> Sun, 26 May 2019 15:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt
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On 5/25/19 10:22 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote: > (Manu, I suggest you subscribe to this list for the duration of this > discussion, to make sure you are not missing any comments.) Subscribed, thanks Martin. :) On 5/26/19 2:10 AM, Phillips, Addison wrote: > There is a discussion in the W3C space (and particularly the Linked > Data, I.e. the RDF/JSON-LD space) about this. I happen to think Manu > has jumped the gun, but it is an internet draft and thus is meant to > spark discussion of this sort. When I'm at a real computer in the > morning I'll send some links for those interested in this debate. Yes, I jumped the gun to push the conversation along... background for those that need it: The W3C Verifiable Credentials defines a data model for the expression of things like Professional Licenses, Driver's Licenses, Education Certificates, Passports, Business descriptions (summary, hours of operation, etc.). The data model works across a variety of syntaxes (JSON, JSON-LD, N-Quads, HTML, CBOR, etc.). We want first-class i18n support, and a common approach to base direction has proved to be challenging across all of the expected syntaxes. One approach is to extend the language tag to also support base direction in a way that is backwards compatible. The proposal can be found here: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3#issuecomment-496006350 There is a massive thread w/ background here: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3 ... which led to this I-D, written by someone that is definitely not an expert in this area (me): https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00 There is a time pressure here. Our i198n concerns have been hanging out there for more than 9 months and our WG charter is up in a couple of months. We need to wrap this up in 3 weeks. Or to put it another way, if we don't wrap this up in 3 weeks, we won't be addressing this issue, which would be a shame. In any case, if you're going to engage in this discussion, the issue #3 above is probably the place to do it. Martin, I'm tracking your comments here: https://github.com/digitalbazaar/d-langtag-ext/issues/1 Martin, almost all, if not all, of your input is reasonable and I'll make those changes if it looks like there is consensus to proceed with draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.. that is, if Addison doesn't strangle me first. :P -- manu -- Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny) Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
- [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-… Michael Everson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Mark Davis ☕️
- [Ietf-languages] d-langtag-ext Use Case (was: Re:… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Gordon P. Hemsley
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] d-langtag-ext Use Case (was:… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Gordon P. Hemsley
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- [Ietf-languages] Proposing -d- Martin Hosken
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Richard Wordingham