Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt

Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> Sun, 26 May 2019 15:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt
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On 5/25/19 10:22 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
> (Manu, I suggest you subscribe to this list for the duration of this 
> discussion, to make sure you are not missing any comments.)

Subscribed, thanks Martin. :)

On 5/26/19 2:10 AM, Phillips, Addison wrote:
> There is a discussion in the W3C space (and particularly the Linked 
> Data, I.e. the RDF/JSON-LD space) about this. I happen to think Manu 
> has jumped the gun, but it is an internet draft and thus is meant to 
> spark discussion of this sort. When I'm at a real computer in the 
> morning I'll send some links for those interested in this debate.

Yes, I jumped the gun to push the conversation along... background for
those that need it:

The W3C Verifiable Credentials defines a data model for the expression
of things like Professional Licenses, Driver's Licenses, Education
Certificates, Passports, Business descriptions (summary, hours of
operation, etc.). The data model works across a variety of syntaxes
(JSON, JSON-LD, N-Quads, HTML, CBOR, etc.). We want first-class i18n
support, and a common approach to base direction has proved to be
challenging across all of the expected syntaxes. One approach is to
extend the language tag to also support base direction in a way that is
backwards compatible. The proposal can be found here:

https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3#issuecomment-496006350

There is a massive thread w/ background here:

https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3

... which led to this I-D, written by someone that is definitely not an
expert in this area (me):

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00

There is a time pressure here. Our i198n concerns have been hanging out
there for more than 9 months and our WG charter is up in a couple of
months. We need to wrap this up in 3 weeks. Or to put it another way, if
we don't wrap this up in 3 weeks, we won't be addressing this issue,
which would be a shame.

In any case, if you're going to engage in this discussion, the issue #3
above is probably the place to do it.

Martin, I'm tracking your comments here:

https://github.com/digitalbazaar/d-langtag-ext/issues/1

Martin, almost all, if not all, of your input is reasonable and I'll
make those changes if it looks like there is consensus to proceed with
draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.. that is, if Addison doesn't strangle me
first. :P

-- manu

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