RE: Pending requests
Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Tue, 01 December 2015 21:14 UTC
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From: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
To: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
Subject: RE: Pending requests
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See if this strawman helps (I don't care if someone else wants to claim this, but I didn't want to stick words in someone else's mouth). LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM 1. Name of requester: Shawn Steele 2. E-mail address of requester: shawnste@microsoft.com 3. Record Requested: Type: variant Subtag: simple Description: Simplified form of a root language Prefix: {any} (what's the syntax for that?) 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: The subtag is intended to represent a generic simplification of a root language. Additional subtags may be registered to indicate a specific orthography if necessary. The intent is to allow clients to requests simplified content, such as when the 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): Omitted. There are numerous schemes for simplifying many languages. 6. Any other relevant information: There are several variations of simplified languages that are interesting, such as Odgen's Basic English, Voice of America English, Wikipedia Simplified English, etc. LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM 1. Name of requester: Shawn Steele 2. E-mail address of requester: shawnste@microsoft.com 3. Record Requested: Type: variant Subtag: odgenbe Description: Basic English Prefix: en-simple 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language created by linguist and philosopher Charles Kay Ogden. 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): Ogden, Charles Kay. 1932. Basic English: A General Introduction with Rules and Grammar. London: K. Paul, Trench, Trubner & Co. Ogden, Charles Kay. 1932. The Basic dictionary, being the 7,500 most useful words with their equivalents in Basic English, for the use of translators, teachers and students, by C. K. Ogden. London: K. Paul, Trench, Trubner & Co. Ogden, Charles Kay. [1942]. The general Basic English dictionary, giving more than 40,000 senses of over 20,000 words, in Basic English, under the direction of C. K. Ogden... with the help of a committee of the Orthological Institute. New York: Norton. 6. Any other relevant information: Basic English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Does Odgen's Basic English "need" 850 word or 1500 word or other variants? LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM 1. Name of requester: ??? 2. E-mail address of requester: ??? 3. Record Requested: Type: variant Subtag: wikip Description: Wikipedia Simple English Prefix: en-simple 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language used on http://simple.wikipedia.org. This language is a mix of Basic English, VOA Special English, and some more guidelines. 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): Wikipedia:Simple English Wikipedia https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages 6. Any other relevant information: Problem: The Simple English Wikipedia uses "simple" for the domain (simple.wikipedia.org) and "en" for its language. This is a problem because: * The domain is different from the language code. * The language code is the same as in the English Wikipedia. It is unclear if the en-simple-wikip tag is acceptable to Wikipedia to solve their architectural issues. LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM 1. Name of requester: Shawn Steele 2. E-mail address of requester: shawnste@microsoft.com 3. Record Requested: Type: variant Subtag: voa Description: Voice of America Special English Prefix: en-simple 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: The subtag is intended to represent the Special English variation used by Voice of America 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VOA_Special_English_Word_Book 6. Any other relevant information: http://learningenglish.voanews.com/
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Johannes Wilkes
- Re: Pending requests David Starner
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests David Starner
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Basic English Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Basic English Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Basic English Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Basic English Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests John Cowan
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
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- Re: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests John Cowan
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️