RE: Pending requests

Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Tue, 01 December 2015 21:14 UTC

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From: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
To: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
Subject: RE: Pending requests
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See if this strawman helps (I don't care if someone else wants to claim this, but I didn't want to stick words in someone else's mouth).  

LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Shawn Steele
2. E-mail address of requester: shawnste@microsoft.com
3. Record Requested:

 Type:   variant
 Subtag: simple
 Description: Simplified form of a root language
 Prefix: {any} (what's the syntax for that?)

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

The subtag is intended to represent a generic simplification of a root language.  Additional subtags may be registered to indicate a specific orthography if necessary.  The intent is to allow clients to requests simplified content, such as when the  

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

Omitted.  There are numerous schemes for simplifying many languages.

6. Any other relevant information:

There are several variations of simplified languages that are interesting, such as Odgen's Basic English, Voice of America English, Wikipedia Simplified English, etc.


LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Shawn Steele
2. E-mail address of requester: shawnste@microsoft.com
3. Record Requested:

 Type:   variant
 Subtag: odgenbe
 Description: Basic English
 Prefix: en-simple

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language created by linguist and philosopher Charles
Kay Ogden.

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

Ogden, Charles Kay. 1932. Basic English: A General Introduction with Rules and Grammar. London: K. Paul,
Trench, Trubner & Co.

Ogden, Charles Kay. 1932. The Basic dictionary, being the 7,500 most useful words with their equivalents
in Basic English, for the use of translators, teachers and students, by C. K. Ogden. London: K. Paul,
Trench, Trubner & Co.

Ogden, Charles Kay. [1942]. The general Basic English dictionary, giving more than 40,000 senses of over
20,000 words, in Basic English, under the direction of C. K. Ogden... with the help of a committee of the
Orthological Institute. New York: Norton.

6. Any other relevant information:

Basic English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English

Does Odgen's Basic English "need" 850 word or 1500 word or other variants?



LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: ???
2. E-mail address of requester: ???
3. Record Requested:

  Type:   variant
  Subtag: wikip
  Description: Wikipedia Simple English
  Prefix: en-simple

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language used on http://simple.wikipedia.org. This
language is a mix of Basic English, VOA Special English, and some more guidelines.

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

Wikipedia:Simple English Wikipedia https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia

Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages

6. Any other relevant information:

Problem: The Simple English Wikipedia uses "simple" for the domain (simple.wikipedia.org) and "en" for
its language. This is a problem because:
* The domain is different from the language code.
* The language code is the same as in the English Wikipedia.

It is unclear if the en-simple-wikip tag is acceptable to Wikipedia to solve their architectural issues.



LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: Shawn Steele
2. E-mail address of requester: shawnste@microsoft.com
3. Record Requested:

 Type:   variant
 Subtag: voa
 Description: Voice of America Special English
 Prefix: en-simple

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

The subtag is intended to represent the Special English variation used by Voice of America

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VOA_Special_English_Word_Book

6. Any other relevant information:

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/