Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form

Leon Derczynski <leod@itu.dk> Wed, 06 March 2019 17:40 UTC

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Hi,

Thank you for your careful feedback. An amended registration form follows. The subtag is now the set of characters common to both the English, Danish, and Bornholmsk word for the language.


LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
   1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski
   2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk<mailto:ld@itu.dk>
   3. Record Requested:

      Type: variant
      Subtag: bor
      Description: Bornholmsk
      Prefix: da
      Preferred-Value:
      Deprecated:
      Suppress-Script:
      Macrolanguage:
      Comments:

   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
     The Bornholmsk language, spoken on the Danish island of Bornholm,
     which has distinct grammar, lexicon, gender system and pronunciation
     when compared to Danish. Also known as Borrinjholmsk, Eastern Danish,
     and Allinge-svensk (inheriting from both Danish and Scanian Swedish).

   5. Reference to published description
      of the language (book or article):
      There is an established literature on the language; the Wikipedia
      page provides a good jumping-off point -
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholmsk_dialect
      See also Aarhus University's description of the spoken language -
        http://jysk.au.dk/samlinger/baandsamling/dialektproever/dialekttraekfrabornholm/
      Present on Glottolog:
        https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/born1251

   6. Any other relevant information:


On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:42, Phillips, Addison <addison@lab126.com<mailto:addison@lab126.com>> wrote:
Hello,

The requested subtag ‘bornholmsk’ is more than eight letters/digits long, and thus invalid. You should consider how to abbreviate it appropriately or choose an appropriate alternate representation that “fits”. Also, the Suppress-Script and Macrolanguage fields must not appear in a variant record (the ‘da’ subtag probably has the script field already; macrolanguage is not applicable to Danish).

Addison

From: Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Leon Derczynski
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:13 AM
To: ietf-languages@iana.org<mailto:ietf-languages@iana.org>
Subject: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form

For variant: bornholmsk

LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
   1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski
   2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk<mailto:ld@itu.dk>
   3. Record Requested:

      Type: variant
      Subtag: bornholmsk
      Description: Bornholmsk
      Prefix: da
      Preferred-Value:
      Deprecated:
      Suppress-Script: Latn
      Macrolanguage: da
      Comments:

   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
     The Bornholmsk language, spoken on the Danish island of Bornholm,
     which has distinct grammar, lexicon, gender system and pronunciation
     when compared to Danish. Also known as Borrinjholmsk, Eastern Danish,
     and Allinge-svensk (inheriting from both Danish and Scanian Swedish).

   5. Reference to published description
      of the language (book or article):
      There is an established literature on the language; the Wikipedia
      page provides a good jumping-off point -
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholmsk_dialect
      See also Aarhus University's description of the spoken language -
        http://jysk.au.dk/samlinger/baandsamling/dialektproever/dialekttraekfrabornholm/
      Present on Glottolog:
        https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/born1251

   6. Any other relevant information:




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