Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC Advisor to the Nominating Committee

[Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>]

Hi, Stephen,

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>
> Hiya,
>
> FWIW, my take:
>
> - I don't care if we use the term liaison or advisor
> - I do think the IAOC has to pick the person
> - I do think every nomcom needs such a person helping
>   out
>

Sorry for my delay in responding.

On your other points, I think I know what to do with your feedback, but
this one is worth talking about some more.

There are different levels of "Nomcoms needing someone who speaks IAOC-ese
fairly fluently".

I'm shooting for "don't forget to think about how you'll know whether
you've got a viable IAOC candidate to forward to the confirming body, and
if you don't know who can help, the IAOC should be well-placed to make
suggestions about people
who can help".

I could be shooting for "the Nomcom has to ask for help", or even "has to
ask the IAOC for help".

At the extreme, I could be shooting for "change the definition of committee
membership so that if you don't have representation from the IAOC, you've
got a really big problem", to match not having a liaison from the IAB or
IESG.

Are people comfortable with this being more permissive than prescriptive?

Thanks,

Spencer


> - I'm fine if a recent but not current IAOC member is
>   the stuckee, where recent is say <= 2 years since
>   being an IAOC appointee. Weasel wording around that
>   goal is fine so long as the intent is clear.
> - If the stuckee is not a current IAOC member, then I
>   think there needs to be some form of appeal of the
>   appointment possible, even if that's via some hard
>   to exercise mechanism.
>
> S.
>
>