Re: [ietf-nomcom] Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility - draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-01

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Tue, 30 July 2013 14:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-nomcom] Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility - draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-01
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Hi Michael,
At 05:46 30-07-2013, Michael Richardson wrote:
>I see. It's not complete enough to be useful.

There were comments from two person on the -01.  I'll propose some 
text to clarify the "personnel" term.

>The authors of the draft are not mentioned, or are any of the people in the
>acknowledgements, nor are the WG chairs.

No, the current usage of personnel is to list the Area Director and 
the document shepherd (usually a WG Chair or WG secretary).

>And using this might increase strife about who should be included in
>acknowlegements.

I would like to avoid the acknowledgements discussion. :-)

>I understand.   I like the idea, but perhaps the metric is not quite right
>yet.

Agreed.

I'll put it this way:

   - Does this proposal make a difference to you?

   - Will it help people with experience be NomCom-eligible?

Regards,
S. Moonesamy