Re: [ietf-nomcom] Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility - draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-01

[Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>]

S Moonesamy <[e-mail]> wrote:
    >> I see. It's not complete enough to be useful.

    > There were comments from two person on the -01.  I'll propose some text to
    > clarify the "personnel" term.

    >> The authors of the draft are not mentioned, or are any of the people in the
    >> acknowledgements, nor are the WG chairs.

    > No, the current usage of personnel is to list the Area Director and the
    > document shepherd (usually a WG Chair or WG secretary).

    >> And using this might increase strife about who should be included in
    >> acknowlegements.

    > I would like to avoid the acknowledgements discussion. :-)

I know.
But, it doesn't even mention document authors, so it's a poor place to get a
list of active people.  Either it could be improved, or another thing could
be used.
Even just
     "grep From:" * | psed -e 's/.*(<\S@\S>).*/\1/' | sort | uniq -c

(* == all emails to @ietf.org lists)

would be, in my opinion, better.

    > Agreed.

    > I'll put it this way:

    > - Does this proposal make a difference to you?

From 1996 until 2005, when my son was born, I was nomcom-eligible by the old
rules.   Between 2004 and mid-2012 I was not nomcom eligible.
I certainly was at 15 meetings prior to 2005.
Did I attend 2 meetings in the last 5?
In 2006, I would have remained eligible.
Between 2007 and 2010 I would have remained in-eligible.
(I attended more than half of those remotely, and reviewed lots of IPsec WG
documents, and became involved in ROLL)
In 2011 I was not eligible according to current rules, but I would have been
eligible under your rule 1 meeting earlier.

    > - Will it help people with experience be NomCom-eligible?

it is better than before, but not significantly.

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