Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC Advisor to the Nominating Committee
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 24 August 2017 16:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC Advisor to the Nominating Committee
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Hiya, On 23/08/17 04:11, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > Hi, Stephen, > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> > wrote: > >> >> Hiya, >> >> FWIW, my take: >> >> - I don't care if we use the term liaison or advisor >> - I do think the IAOC has to pick the person >> - I do think every nomcom needs such a person helping >> out >> > > Sorry for my delay in responding. Ditto:-) > > On your other points, I think I know what to do with your feedback, but > this one is worth talking about some more. > > There are different levels of "Nomcoms needing someone who speaks IAOC-ese > fairly fluently". > > I'm shooting for "don't forget to think about how you'll know whether > you've got a viable IAOC candidate to forward to the confirming body, and > if you don't know who can help, the IAOC should be well-placed to make > suggestions about people > who can help". > > I could be shooting for "the Nomcom has to ask for help", or even "has to > ask the IAOC for help". > > At the extreme, I could be shooting for "change the definition of committee > membership so that if you don't have representation from the IAOC, you've > got a really big problem", to match not having a liaison from the IAB or > IESG. It's not a hill on which I'd die, but I don't think it extreme to expect every nomcom to have an IAOC-helper, even for years when there is no IAOC appointment for nomcom to make. So I think your last target above is the better one. I am fine with the description of "helper" being vague-ish to allow for iasa2 etc. Cheers, S. > > Are people comfortable with this being more permissive than prescriptive? > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > >> - I'm fine if a recent but not current IAOC member is >> the stuckee, where recent is say <= 2 years since >> being an IAOC appointee. Weasel wording around that >> goal is fine so long as the intent is clear. >> - If the stuckee is not a current IAOC member, then I >> think there needs to be some form of appeal of the >> appointment possible, even if that's via some hard >> to exercise mechanism. >> >> S. >> >> >
- [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC Advis… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Michael Richardson
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Michael Richardson
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Joel Halpern
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF