Re: [ietf-nomcom] I-D Action: draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-00.txt

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Thu, 27 June 2013 09:47 UTC

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:45:39 -0700
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-nomcom] I-D Action: draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-00.txt
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Hi Brian,
At 18:41 26-06-2013, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>So, I understand what this is trying to do:
>
> >       Members of the IETF community must have attended at least 3 of
> >       last 5 IETF meetings remotely or in person including at least 1 of
> >       the 5 last IETF meetings in person in order to volunteer.
>
>It's not unreasonable; on some interpretations of "attended ... remotely"
>it would requalify me for NomCom, for example. But it raises two flags for
>me:
>
>1. I don't think that physical attendance at one meeting is convincing
>as an indication that someone really understands how things work
>around here. As John hints, *any* objective criteria are a surrogate
>for whether a person groks the culture. But if we must have criteria,
>they need to be convincing. I would prefer something more like

Yes.

>...must have attended at least 3 meetings in person, and have
>attended at least 3 of the last 5 meetings in person or remotely...
>
>(i.e. this looks at their lifetime history of personal attendance,
>and their recent record of any kind of attendance).
>
>2. I didn't find an objective definition of "attend remotely".

This is an issue and it will have to be addressed.  I prefer not to 
suggest a specific method for now.  To say it differently, we can 
agree about what we would like to do and then get into the details of 
how it can be done.

Please note that I am not ignoring the second flag.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy