Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Wed, 26 June 2013 19:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility
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Hi Joel,
At 10:10 26-06-2013, Joel wrote:
>You seem to be asserting that the requirement I describe in the
>first paragraph as a form of discrimination. In a purely linguistic
>sense, it is. But that does not change the reality. Which is why I
>keep coming back to asking to change the reality first.
The reality is that some working groups are not working and it has
been like that since several meetings. The reality is that one or
more directorates have not been working since several years and
nothing was done about that.
The reality is that NomCom had to select an Area Director and the
consent of the IAB was required. There was another call for
candidates. A member of the IAB was selected as Area
Director. Please note that I am not inferring that the person did
anything inappropriate. Let's assume that you were one of the
candidates who was not chosen. You might feel slighted by
that. This is where you decide to go incommunicado instead of doing
the working group chair work.
The reality is when I ask you for help to find a mentor you go out of
your way to do so. When somebody who has been to many meetings tells
me that he/she had difficulty finding mentors I think that the is a
problem somewhere.
let me share a story I read:
'I was having tea with A company when we heard a lot of shouting and went
to investigate. We found our men and the Germans standing on
their respective
parapets. Suddenly a salvo arrived, but did no damage. Naturally
both sides got
down and our men started swearing at the Germans. All at once a
brave German got
on to his parapet and shouted out "We are very sorry about that;
we hope no one
was hurt. It is not our fault, it is that damned Prussian artillery".'
The above is described as "live and let live". It is about
non-aggressive cooperative behavior that happened a long time ago.
Regards,
S. Moonesamy
- [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Process: E… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Russ Housley
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Russ Housley
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Mary Barnes
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… Joel
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-nomcom] The Nominating Committee Proces… S Moonesamy