Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC Advisor to the Nominating Committee

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Fri, 25 August 2017 01:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-nomcom] BCP 10 Update, adding an IAOC Advisor to the Nominating Committee
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--On Friday, August 25, 2017 01:31 +0100 Stephen Farrell
<stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

>...
> John's suggestion to say that helpers are needed for all the
> major bodies to which nomcoms appoint members seems like it
> should be fine when well wordsmithed.

Just for the record, my suggestion wasn't "are needed" but that
the Nomcom should consider each one and decide what, if
anything, was needed and how any advisors/helpers who are needed
should interact with the Nomcom.  Put differently, I'm in favor
of reminding Nomcoms about cases they should consider (thereby
covering the "no one thought of it" cases) but much less in
favor of telling them what they should conclude or what they
should do about it.

    john