[ietf-outcomes] First Impression

Ed Juskevicius <edj.etc@gmail.com> Wed, 03 February 2010 21:22 UTC

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Subject: [ietf-outcomes] First Impression
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My first impression the "IETF Outcomes" Wiki is very positive.  This has the
potential to be a really useful reference tool for anyone looking to get a
perspective on a particular technology.

The process of populating this Wiki should also enable a lot of interesting
"water cooler" style discussions on successes and failures.  For example,
I agree that IPv6 adoption is "poor" today, and the outcome is "still
pending"

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/misc/outcomes/wiki/IetfInternet

I also agree we want "massive adoption of IPv6" as soon as possible.

This being said, what if IPv6 got massively adopted this year?  That would
be great, but it would also be more than 15 years after we started working
on it.  Would that be a massive success, or "narrowly averting disaster" ?

Many Thanks to David (and anyone else involved) in getting this organized !

Regards,


Ed Juskevicius