Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki
"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Wed, 10 February 2010 20:07 UTC
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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: dcrocker@bbiw.net, ietf-outcomes@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki
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In line. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-outcomes-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:ietf-outcomes-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave CROCKER > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:02 PM > To: ietf-outcomes@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki > > > > On 2/10/2010 2:45 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > 'The wiki is only as complete and accurate as community > effort makes it.' > > > > It would probably be good to add a phrase that makes clear that the > > information contained here does not represent the consensus > of the IETF. > > > I'll offer a friendly amendment, in the hopes of achieving > some... ummm... > consensus... > > > Outcomes home page > ------------------ > > Currently: > > The IETF has operated in its current form since 1989. Some of its > > standards have succeeded on a very large and visible scale. > Others are > > successful, but visible only to a more limited community. > Others have > > fared poorly. This wiki lists technologies and services that were > > developed in the IETF and represent notable successes or > failures. It > > is a collaborative effort of IETF participants, to provide > feedback to > > the community about the utility of IETF efforts, as well as to > > facilitate public understanding of IETF work and impact. > > > Proposed revision: > > The IETF has operated in its current form since 1989. Some of > its standards have succeeded on a very large and visible > scale. Others are successful, but visible only to a more > limited community. Others have fared poorly. This wiki lists > technologies and services that were developed in the IETF and > represent notable successes or failures. It is an informal, > collaborative effort of IETF participants, to provide > feedback to the community about the utility of IETF efforts, > as well as to facilitate public understanding of IETF work and impact. > The contents of the are revised according to the views of > individual contributors and have not been subject to IETF > Rough Consensus assessment. Looks OK but the phrase is missing something, maybe the word 'wiki' between 'the' and 'are'. > > > > Charter page > ------------ > > Currently: > > > The IETF produces technical specifications, with the goal of their > > being used on the Internet. Once a specification is > published, there > > is no formal mechanism for assessing the eventual utility > of the work. > > However feedback about successes or problems can be useful in > > developing a shared community sense of the way work is -- > or should be > > -- done. The IETF Outcomes Wiki is a collaborative effort > to produce > > subjective assessments about successes and failures of > notable efforts, based on rough consensus. > > > Proposed revision: > > The IETF produces technical specifications, with the goal of > their being used on the Internet. Once a specification is > published, there is no formal mechanism for assessing the > eventual utility of the work. However feedback about > successes or problems can be useful in developing a shared > community sense of the way work is -- or should be -- done. > The IETF Outcomes Wiki is an informal, collaborative, > incremental effort among individual IETF participants, to > produce subjective assessments about successes and failures > of notable efforts. Although tending to reflect a degree of > community agreement, the contents of the wiki are not subject > to formal IETF Rough Consensus assessment. This looks OK to me. > > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > ietf-outcomes mailing list > ietf-outcomes@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-outcomes >
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki David Harrington
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki David Harrington
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Bernard Aboba
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki Dave CROCKER
- [ietf-outcomes] Definitions and conflict process Dave CROCKER