Re: [ietf-privacy] New Webiquette RFC

Intersting historic insight, thanks, Ted.

So, in summary: "The Internet is for End-Users, but the IETF is not" ?  ;-)

Sounds like a bit as if the state of IETF wrt. to what you write contradicts RFC8890.

Shouldn't be too difficult to attempt reviving FYI in some gen area WG
if we believed we actually wanted to do something about rfc8890 that 
does not well fit other areas.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 09:53:37AM +0100, Ted Hardie wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 9:18 PM <kate_9023+rfc@systemli.org> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you. I have oriented myself on this RFC:
> >
> >    [RFC1855]  Hambridge, S., "Netiquette Guidelines", FYI 28, RFC 1855,
> >               DOI 10.17487/RFC1855, October 1995,
> >               <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1855> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1855>.
> >
> >
> > You will no doubt have noticed that this had both an RFC number and a
> designation as an FYI.  The FYI series has since been concluded:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6360 describes the action.  This
> is in part because that relevant part of the IETF (the User Services Area)
> had also wound down.
> 
> Given the decisions above, it would be difficult to identify a group within
> the IETF that could review an update to RFC 1855.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Ted Hardie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 17.04.22 22:12, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps if the author wishes the draft to proceed they will
> > be happy to self-identify, or perhaps not. I'd not worry
> > too much about the general problem 'till that's clear.
> >
> > The text of the draft itself seems innocuous enough. While
> > I'm not clear what useful purpose might be served by having
> > such text in an RFC, I'd be willing to be convinced but so
> > far remain to be convinced.
> >
> > Process-wise, I'd say unless this were modified to address
> > some IETF-specific issues (such as netiquette in developing
> > protocols) it'd likely be better targeted to the IAB or
> > ISE streams. (That's no reason to not discuss it here
> > though.)
> >
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