Re: [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion
David Lloyd-Jones <david.lloydjones@gmail.com> Thu, 05 April 2018 15:04 UTC
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Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 11:04:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion
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Sigh. On 5 April 2018 at 04:14, F_against <f_against@protonmail.com> wrote: > Thank you for supporting me Christian. I will do a writeup and save some > comma. > > > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On 4 April 2018 8:26 PM, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote: > > Anonymity and commas apart, this request falls in the general category of > "starting new work in the IETF". I wish we had a specific page on the IETF > web site explaining how to do that. For your specific proposal on > alternative to OTP, I would: > > 1) Write a white paper explaining the problem you want to solve -- > emphasis on problem, rather than solution. This will be the basis for the > initial discussions. > > 2) Demonstrate that there is interest in solving the problem in some > community. It has to be more than just you, there has to be some people or > companies who think solving the problem is important, and who are ready to > work in the IETF to develop a standard and later implement and deploy the > standardized solution. > > 3) Contact the relevant area director in the IETF on the best way to > proceed. In your case, that would be the directors of the security area, > Benjamin Kaduk and Eric Rescorla. (See addresses at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/). They will advise you on the next step, > which can be either more research, or working with an existing working > group, or start the process towards creation of a working group. > Note that there is a big tension between anonymity and standardization. > The standardization process requires transparency to prevent abuses such as > insertion of patented technology in standards without proper disclosure. > > -- Christian Huitema > > > > > On 4/4/2018 2:58 AM, David Lloyd-Jones wrote: > > Um, I think you need to get a handle on how the comma works and how its > working affects meaning. The ancient usage of the comma in the Second > Amendment of the US Constitution is a good example of the trouble one can > get into with misplaced commas. > > Your odd use of the comma in your message suggests that you are not yet > ready to take on the sometimes crucial topic of protocols, anonymous F. > > Sorry 'bout 'dat, but frankness is sometimes the best policy. > > Best wishes, > -dlj. > > On 3 April 2018 at 15:32, F_against <f_against@protonmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, >> >> I want to talk about protocol, that has similar characteristics to otp. >> Are you interessted? >> >> Greetings >> F. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ietf-privacy mailing list >> ietf-privacy@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-privacy >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-privacy mailing listietf-privacy@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-privacy > > >
- [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion F_against
- Re: [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion David Lloyd-Jones
- Re: [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion Christian Huitema
- Re: [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion David Lloyd-Jones
- Re: [ietf-privacy] protocol discussion F_against