Re: [ietf-privacy] [Int-area] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 09 June 2014 14:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-privacy] [Int-area] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers
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On 09/06/14 14:46, Brandon Williams wrote:
> 
> Would you please indicate where the draft proposes a new identifier? If
> you are seeing a proposal for protocol changes somewhere in the draft,
> editing work is required in order to either clarify or excise the
> associated text.

Fair enough that its an assumption of mine that adding some kind of
identifier is required to meet the (no-longer mis-stated:-)
requirements for these use-cases. But I think that is logically
required, and its valid to draw obvious conclusions and its also
invalid to ignore obvious conclusions.

S.