Re: [ietf-smtp] Proper definition of the term "email payload".

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 01 April 2019 14:31 UTC

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On 3/31/2019 9:22 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
> And then there's "payload" as seen from the Ethernet, IP, and TCP
> layers...

So.  It's payloads, all the way down...


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