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Re: [ietf-smtp] broken signatures, was Curious

e sam <e2009@hey.com> Thu, 23 July 2020 02:37 UTC

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From: e sam <e2009@hey.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] broken signatures, was Curious
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Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:
“On 7/22/2020 7:05 PM, e sam wrote:
> I'm just talking about if there IS a problem, which I don't know if 
> there is or isn't one..


For an effort of the narrow type intended here, when someone posts about 
a problem, they should include documentation that it is actually a problem.

It's easy to hypothesize about an infinite range of possibilities. It 
takes work to document the realities.

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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I didn't say that there was a problem or not, all I was saying is that I get the feeling that if there was a problem, it is a minor one compared to the other stuff on the EMAILCORE agenda. Other people in this mailing list have already brought up their own problems. In fact, in my first post which sparked all this discussion I just said it was something to consider. If people thought there was a problem, then we could take it further. If there wasn't a problem, then we could leave it at that.

I agree with your last paragraph about the work and documenting it!

Thanks

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