Re: [ietf-smtp] Proposed agenda for EMAILCORE BOF

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Thu, 23 July 2020 15:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Proposed agenda for EMAILCORE BOF
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Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
    > If the purpose of the EMAILCORE WG is indeed to bring the current message
    > format and SMTP specifications to Full Standard, I further propose that any
    > features not in those specifications should be out-of-scope for the WG,
    > unless perhaps any new features are (a) already at Proposed Standard; (b)
    > widely implemented enough to also be considered for Full Standard; and (c)
    > necessary for inclusion in the core specifications in order for the complete
    > set of revised specifications (core + new features) to qualify for Full
    > Standard.

I imagine that you would include SPF and DKIM in this list.

Would you include DMARC, and the new list-friendly version, of which I know
little?

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