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Re: [ietf-smtp] Proposed Charter for EMAILCORE WG-to-be

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Wed, 22 July 2020 12:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Proposed Charter for EMAILCORE WG-to-be
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On 22/07/2020 13:36, Dave Crocker wrote:

> On 7/22/2020 5:26 AM, Tim Wicinski wrote:
>> In the last paragraph, would it harm to drop "and assuming the 
>> participants still have the momentum to do so" ?  Recharting will 
>> require reevaluation anyway.
>
> Good point.  But it doesn't go far enough.  Rather, drop the entire 
> paragraph:
>
>> Upon completion of these three milestones, and assuming the 
>> participants still have the momentum to do so, the working group may 
>> undertake similar review and revision of other email specifications. 
>> Such future work will require rechartering.
>
> Typically, text like this in a charter is gratuitous, since it 
> explicitly has nothing to do with work that is currently within scope. 
> It's only saving grace can be indirect, to aid in the definition of 
> what is out of scope for current work.  But that's best achieved by 
> simply saying what is out of scope.

Yes, happy to drop this.

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