Re: [ietf-smtp] Curious, with this now being associated to emailcore, should list name change?

Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> Sun, 19 July 2020 19:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Curious, with this now being associated to emailcore, should list name change?
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On Sunday 19 July 2020 20:19:52 CEST, John C Klensin wrote:
> <Sounds of virtual vomiting>
>
> It is interesting that every one of these starts in "X-".

It looks shorter, but uglier, if I exclude X-. Avert your eyes now:

 Staticcontent1_Header1_F731d3dc-Fd31-4161-Ad91-1083ba56853f
 Staticcontent2_Header2_F731d3dc-Fd31-4161-Ad91-1083ba56853f
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Subscriber-Uid
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Campaign-Uid
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Customer-Gid
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Customer-Uid
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Delivery-Sid
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Tracking-Did
 /Usr/Usr/Lib/Ecartis/Ecartis.Logreceived
 /Usr/Local/Ecartis/Ecartis.Logreceived
 Antivirus.Cortanet.Com.Mx-Mail-From
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Mailer
 (Anti-Spam-(Anti-Spam-Mime-Version
 Lcs-Mailantivirus-System-Mail-From
 {Emails_Custom_Header_Prefix}Ebs
 Prayed-Neutralize-Impressionable
 Authentication-Results-Original
 Original-Authentication-Results
 Regenerates-Root-Insensitivity
 Discarded-X400-Mts-Extensions
 Require-Recipient-Valid-Since
 Academia-Accosts-Occidentals
 Forward-Confirmed-Reversedns
 Sun-Java-System-Smtp-Warning
 Antivirus-Sistema-Mail-From

Some might say that these are the worst even including X-. I, uh, I don't 
know what to say, but maybe doing these queries may not have been a good 
idea and you should shoot me now. "Authentication-Results-Original 
Original-Authentication-Results" oh god.

Arnt