Re: [ietf-smtp] How to encrypt SMTP?

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 27 October 2019 00:25 UTC

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From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] How to encrypt SMTP?
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In article <037312D9-E9DD-464C-89D3-036786456119@network-heretics.com> you write:
>Yes but IMO we should be moving toward a world in which TLS is mandatory for SMTP relay.    Clear guidance to implementors
>and operators on what TLS versions, cert algorithms, and ciphersuites a client and server should support, might help us get there.

I don't think that's the problem.  I don't see any SMTP TLS failures other than from spambots.

>(perhaps as a stepping stone, cleartext mail relay could be pessimized ...

We already have mta-sts, which says that cleartext is forbidden for
the domains it's published for.  Why reinvent another wheel?

R's,
John