IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [ietf-smtp] what's not a trace field

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Thu, 18 February 2021 02:56 UTC

Return-Path: <dhc@dcrocker.net>
X-Original-To: ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6D93A1F25 for <ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:56:16 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.101
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=dcrocker.net
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id drCDRpohVi7F for <ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:56:15 -0800 (PST)
Received: from caracal.ash.relay.mailchannels.net (caracal.ash.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.222.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFB753A1F27 for <ietf-smtp@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:56:13 -0800 (PST)
X-Sender-Id: hostingeremail|x-authsender|dhc@dcrocker.net
Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4480B1E239A; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:56:09 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from nl-srv-smtpout4.hostinger.io (100-96-16-16.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.16.16]) (Authenticated sender: hostingeremail) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 56DD41E1E96; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:56:08 +0000 (UTC)
X-Sender-Id: hostingeremail|x-authsender|dhc@dcrocker.net
Received: from nl-srv-smtpout4.hostinger.io ([UNAVAILABLE]. [145.14.159.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.16.16 (trex/6.1.1); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:56:09 +0000
X-MC-Relay: Neutral
X-MailChannels-SenderId: hostingeremail|x-authsender|dhc@dcrocker.net
X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: hostingeremail
X-Cooing-Whispering: 72fe624e24117534_1613616969007_2093493287
X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1613616969007:2645596239
X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1613616969007
Received: from [192.168.0.109] (108-226-162-63.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [108.226.162.63]) (Authenticated sender: dhc@dcrocker.net) by nl-srv-smtpout4.hostinger.io (smtp.hostinger.com) with ESMTPSA id 2DA7A31A0C6E; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:56:04 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dcrocker.net; s=hostingermail-a; t=1613616966; bh=kPGhl9d3F5wA7Q4Jj/YZHkTVsj7VlN3aa2w621bKY3c=; h=Reply-To:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ajE2kz1/e9mNkoYWguN9Y17Bghi5RT8qTC59HonyALLF/MGJ+vBiHBJ9/AwK5ukDB fiI2hPJLr0jrx/SIw+LOfqXAN98ItGZW+FfDc78Cse2pBoIiey+guNCYBuZenodZjF 5LZ5MiTVzQtJsfC2LWOHkHUrn0w1ZiFC8Hfq3uA4nJR/hWW7bBJ9JyUFkbvEZXjmxQ XPzmcL3o0lI31hoi9B2Ewho4ACRXM0HuaItY0Y8Jyour/JRC0cJ6SRXOSn/NtmE7If csD8o/ayHWkSUFRO/rCzfep1A+yDIJJ13sKPS/Ic2y865arGmhhzeyDnXa7YO+dsb7 wDKpe9X2emBOg==
Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
To: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, ietf-smtp@ietf.org
References: <20210217225220.562696E1F35B@ary.qy> <5f987531-4d58-9dc0-54c0-845e60ac2ebe@dcrocker.net> <612894d1-89a9-eb77-20dc-1bdebe0a32e@taugh.com>
From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking
Message-ID: <af165aa5-1858-f466-71e6-b9e8f1535e74@dcrocker.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:56:02 -0800
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <612894d1-89a9-eb77-20dc-1bdebe0a32e@taugh.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/b9sb7DDty23l7QD8gnWO6Kytmp4>
Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] what's not a trace field
X-BeenThere: ietf-smtp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Discussion of issues related to Simple Mail Transfer Protocol \(SMTP\) \[RFC 821, RFC 2821, RFC 5321\]" <ietf-smtp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf-smtp>, <mailto:ietf-smtp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf-smtp/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-smtp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-smtp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp>, <mailto:ietf-smtp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:56:17 -0000

On 2/17/2021 3:31 PM, John R Levine wrote:
> I provided language.  Let's see if we have consensus from the rest of 
> the WG.


John,

I've reviewed your postings and do not find any definition of 'trace 
header field'.  So there's nothing for the working group to consider.

Again, you appear to be insisting on inclusion of a term that has no 
consensus definition -- nevermind one that has been published -- and no 
operational effect on the draft.  (It's also not a wg draft.)


d/

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email