Re: [ietf-smtp] Curious, with this now being associated to emailcore, should list name change?

Jeremy Harris <jgh@wizmail.org> Sun, 19 July 2020 10:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Curious, with this now being associated to emailcore, should list name change?
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On 19/07/2020 03:04, E Sam wrote:
> I think a header value limit for important headers stored in overview
> systems (From:, To:, Newsgroups:, Bcc:, etc...) could be a good
> idea... this could be difficult but it is something that we could
> consider - I don't know if there is already something out there that
> already sets the rules for this and I don't know about it. SMTP
> software developers  - anyone from EXIM, Sendmail, OpenSMTPD, or
> Postfix on this list can elaborate if they want in my reply.

Exim limits the aggregate size of the headers of a message; this
implicitly limits any single header.

The limit is changeable in the configuration file; the default
is 1MB.
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Cheers,
  Jeremy