Re: [ietf-smtp] [Emailcore] Document updates and interactions with the ietf-smtp mailing list

Alexey Melnikov <> Wed, 30 September 2020 14:11 UTC

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Hi John,

On 27/09/2020 16:41, John C Klensin wrote:

> ( is copied for convenience in this note --
> please do not include it in any replies.)
> Hi.
> Now that we have a WG and a separate mailing list...
> (1) The last several hours have included a discussion on
> ietf-smtp about domain validation and possible modifications to
> SMTP that would presumably go into 5321bis.   If we are going to
> have a separate mailing list for this WG, threads that propose
> 5321 (or 5322) modifications should be on the emailcore list
> and, if we are going to avoid very confused editors and others,
> the emailcore list exclusively.
I concur. I encourage people to use for further 
> I suggest that co-chairs either
> take on responsibility for enforcing that principle or that they
> find someone to do so.
> (2) draft-klensin-email-core-as-00 will expire this week.
> Unless someone (presumably including the co-chairs) provides a
> convincing argument for me to do otherwise, I do not intend to
> post an updated version of that document.  I would be willing to
> post a version with a draft-ietf-emailcore... name, but that
> means that someone needs to initiate the process of designating
> it as a WG draft.  And, as I have said several times before, I
> don't intend to be editor of that document as it evolves with WG
> discussion, so I hope the co-chairs have a volunteer to whom I
> can send the XML and notes and a plan.
> (3) Similarly, I do not expect there to be a
> draft-klensin-rfc5321bis-04, so, if and when people want to see
> an updated version of draft-klensin-rfc5321bis-03, there should
> be some action to authorize posting of what would presumably be
> draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-00.

Chairs will start adoption calls within a couple of weeks.

Best Regards,