Re: [ietf-smtp] Valid RFC5322 address

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Sun, 03 May 2020 16:07 UTC

Return-Path: <hsantos@isdg.net>
X-Original-To: ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8CC3A0ECD for <ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 3 May 2020 09:07:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.1
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isdg.net header.b=SwFGcB23; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=beta.winserver.com header.b=aGUFTpIG
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gW9_A1Xz8OLN for <ietf-smtp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 3 May 2020 09:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail.winserver.com (dkim.winserver.com [76.245.57.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3299A3A0ECC for <ietf-smtp@ietf.org>; Sun, 3 May 2020 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; d=isdg.net; s=tms1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/relaxed; l=1675; t=1588522032; atps=ietf.org; atpsh=sha1; h=Received:Received:Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From: Organization:To:Subject:List-ID; bh=wDwnTa+laac91sWPacZZQoAso/g=; b=SwFGcB23O4h2zyiAsV+DSP45j/iO8uttnSN0oTwsUuFw2Ns6HxOeGHEXPmjtv+ zX+gPbqodkx7YvykH5BsgDcYrslu45Qqcy4crqs1ymgjqyQM6DcqyJ1yRsjMKowC m6QeVUxuoIiwDg2H2EehbcjP3R/3aSbpqfi1Rvpm3DrH8=
Received: by winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP Router v8.0.454.9) for ietf-smtp@ietf.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 12:07:12 -0400
Authentication-Results: dkim.winserver.com; dkim=pass header.d=beta.winserver.com header.s=tms1 header.i=beta.winserver.com; dmarc=pass policy=reject author.d=isdg.net signer.d=beta.winserver.com (atps signer);
Received: from beta.winserver.com ([76.245.57.74]) by winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP v8.0.454.9) with ESMTP id 3544345019.9584.5248; Sun, 03 May 2020 12:07:12 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; d=beta.winserver.com; s=tms1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/relaxed; l=1675; t=1588521676; h=Received:Received: Message-ID:Date:From:Organization:To:Subject:List-ID; bh=eIjne76 0YzDHwY43+ZnbaXkcXsZzl72XOvuHbQqVbm0=; b=aGUFTpIGx+3asOCi044gHRT V3JfnV93Ge7EV5ioax4b0dAORQ77lQ7RtKOBqy/lIw/dnoPyNLh7hliSp8rJfw7F bTNGVJzxGVIBi46cik2J0SHP14db2xXny/yRBkmaLOi5TR1sKM89Gu58rZ+DihoC qB3FB/h2SFjZv/5iNiR4=
Received: by beta.winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP Router v8.0.454.9) for ietf-smtp@ietf.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 12:01:16 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([75.26.216.248]) by beta.winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP v8.0.454.9) with ESMTP id 255750390.3.4532; Sun, 03 May 2020 12:01:15 -0400
Message-ID: <5EAEEC2B.6010500@isdg.net>
Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 12:07:07 -0400
From: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
Reply-To: hsantos@isdg.net
Organization: Santronics Software, Inc.
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: ietf-smtp@ietf.org
References: <5EAEDA84.1050408@isdg.net> <20200503151129.GA79775@kiel.esmtp.org>
In-Reply-To: <20200503151129.GA79775@kiel.esmtp.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/x_K_TSkrk0cSMfOzQ1QZN83dHgU>
Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Valid RFC5322 address
X-BeenThere: ietf-smtp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Discussion of issues related to Simple Mail Transfer Protocol \(SMTP\) \[RFC 821, RFC 2821, RFC 5321\]" <ietf-smtp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf-smtp>, <mailto:ietf-smtp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf-smtp/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-smtp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-smtp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp>, <mailto:ietf-smtp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 16:07:17 -0000

Thanks Ned and Claus:

On 5/3/2020 11:11 AM, Claus Assmann wrote:
> On Sun, May 03, 2020, Hector Santos wrote:
>> It appears to be accepted by various servers, including my own.
>
> Well, most mail servers accept all kind of garbage ("be liberal ... ").
>
> Mine doesn't:
> Mail from:<github.agent:.github-hookshot/7431eee@winserver.com>
> 501 5.1.7 Bad sender's mailbox address syntax.

The icloud.com SMTP server accepted it. How I saw the issue was with 
Apple's web-based icloud.com mail reader/viewer (MUA).   It showed a 
blank From: field when first reading it. But after viewing a previous 
email, i.e. Apple News, it now used Apple's From address as a filler 
for the notification email from field display. The bugs were reported 
to Apple.

> Just quote it and you're ok:
> <"github.agent:.github-hookshot/7431eee"@winserver.com>

Ok. I am probably to change it so isn't a problem with MUAs as well -- 
be "conservative" on sending out. :-)

>> So I need to know if the address is valid. Its hard to decipher whether it
>> is or not from the RFC5322/RFC5321 BNF. It seems to read the ':' and '/'
>> characters are valid.
>
> Where do you see an unquoted ':' as valid in "Local-part"?  ':' is
> used to separate "At-Domain" parts.

I guess I was reading multiple things between RFC5322 and RFC5321. 
Jumped around a lot.

As Ned showed, I see now RFC5222 better defines the local-part. But 
with RFC5321, it wasn't quite clear.  It seems to stop with only one 
occurrence of atext, no BNF for it and no reference to atext being 
defined in RFC5322.

I suppose this might be another clarification issue for RFC5321bis.

Thanks

-- 
HLS