Re: [ietf-sow] Fwd: Agenda Development RFP SOW for Community Input

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Mon, 14 November 2011 10:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-sow] Fwd: Agenda Development RFP SOW for Community Input
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Trimming to only one particular point where I have input:

On 2011-11-11 17:33 Robert Sparks said the following:

>>> Under the agenda manipulation sections - why don't we allow users (of whatever
>>> level) to save proposed agendas and refer to them by name (preferably with a URL
>>> that goes back to them). This would allow several people to propose conflict
>>> resolutions. It would be even better if the tool provided a way to easily
>>> visualize the difference between any two saved agendas. This saving motif
>>> could be leveraged to simplify some of the requirements around identifying
>>> what the current draft or "final" agenda are.
>>
>> I'm not sure.  This could lead to a very significant amount of storage.  Also, it will not be useful after a few days.
> I don't think each save would be that large, and we could cause it to have a finite lifetime.
> But if I'm wrong about size, we could alternatively look at making it something that could
> be returned to the user as a blob instead of storing it in the database.

The actual data constituting a scheduled set is not particularly large --
unless this is done in an incredibly inept manner, I think the overhead of
storing instances of scheduling solutions is negligible.


Best regards,

	Henrik