Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)
"Dick St.Peters" <stpeters@NetHeaven.com> Fri, 17 September 2004 17:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)
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Henrik Levkowetz writes: > I have no illusions about the fingerprints taken when I come to > IETF61 not finding their way into the US fingerprint data bases > which now, I believe, mostly hold fingerprints of criminals and > people who have been arrested and booked. Bah. Not that I want to defend the policy, but my fingerprints have been on file since my first security clearance in 1964. I've always viewed this as a benefit ... I could prove who I am should that ever become necessary. Being that I'm not a criminal and never had any desire to become one, having my prints on file has never had any downside. Having private entities keeping track of me has always seemed far more threatening than having government keep track. Perhaps that comes from having lived with benign governments and not-alway-so-benign private businesses. -- Dick St.Peters, stpeters@NetHeaven.com Gatekeeper, NetHeaven, Saratoga Springs, NY _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Dick St.Peters
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