Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your reviewand comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

["Joel M. Halpern" <[e-mail]>]

Let's be quite clear here.
Your stated requirement for doing this was that authors had to be able 
to take and modify any text from anywhere in an RFC.
The Working Group concluded that while that was reasonable relative to 
code (and we tried to give the open source community that ability 
relative to code), that such a wide grant was not reasonable relative to 
the text content of RFC.  (Among other concerns, such changes would 
include modification of normative text and text carefully worked out by 
working groups to get the meanings right.  If the WG got it wrong, the 
IETF is the place to fix it, not comments in code somewhere.)

Also, it should be understood that this issue is largely orthogonal to 
the topic under discussion.  The working group could have included what 
Simon asked for in 5377.  The rough consensus of the WG was not to do 
so.  A more narrow 5378 would make it harder to make such a grant, but 
since the working group didn't choose to do so (and personally, I think 
doing so would undermine much of our work) the issues seems to have no 
bearing on "whould we rescind 5378?" or "is there a better transition 
strategy to get 5378 to apply to the bulk of our work?" or "how do we 
get 5378 rights in code, without holding up all the other documents?"

Yours,
Joel

Simon Josefsson wrote:
> One of the remaining problems is, as described above, that the IETF
> license does not permit authors to take BSD licensed code and use them
> as illustration in RFCs because RFC 5378 does not permit additional
> copyright notices to be present in RFCs.
> 
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