RE: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality
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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality
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Hi! > -----Original Message----- > From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 3:03 AM > To: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality > > Warning: External Sender - do not click links or open attachments unless you > recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > Hello, > > RFC 7776 (Section 4.1) stated that: "These [operating] practices must be > discussed with the IESG and published in a publicly visible place (such as on the > IETF web site). Discussion with the IETF community is encouraged and, ..." > > RFC 7776 was published in 2016. > > (a) The operating practices have not been published up to this day. I'll let the Ombudsteam answer for itself on their planned next steps. I will share that when Adrian Farrel asked an almost identical version of this question at the IETF 120 plenary, Pete Resnick provided a timeline of publishing these practices as "well before the next IETF Meeting" [1]. ==[ snip ]== > ADRIAN FARREL: ... RFC 7776 is now eight years old. One of the things it says is the Ombudsteam is responsible for devising and documenting their operating practices. These practices must be discussed with IESG and published in a publicly visible place, such as on the IETF website. It was understandable in the first couple of years, the processes were not written up because they were being developed, and it's a self-organizing team, but what I would like to do is ask you to put a bit of pressure on them now to get those processes properly published. ... >> PETE RESNICK: Funny you should mention that, Adrian. Yes, we are very much aware of this, and we agree it is something we need to do. ... We are, I believe, going to pull it off the first or so week of September. Once we get everybody onboarded and trained up, we're using that moment to sit down and write up what we currently do, make changes to what we think now we really should do, and get those to the IESG and the public. Hopefully, you should see those well before the next IETF meeting. ==[ snip ]== Regards, Roman [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/materials/minutes-120-ietf-202407250030-00
- Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality On behalf of the Ombudsteam
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality S Moonesamy
- RE: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Roman Danyliw
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Allison Mankin
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality John C Klensin
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Pete Resnick
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality John C Klensin
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Allison Mankin
- RE: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Adrian Farrel
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Salz, Rich
- Re: Ombudsteam remedies and confidentiality Pete Resnick