Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors

["Larry Kreeger (kreeger)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Brian,

I agree that there will always be exceptions (we have them now), that will
need to be handled manually, but I don't think that is a reason not to try
to handle 80% of the cases.

On your question about withdrawal, no I don't see why other authors should
have any say in whether an author withdraws or not.  It this somehow
related
to the "right to be forgotten" law? :-)

 - Larry

On 5/31/15 1:03 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Larry,
>
>The tools could do pretty much whatever we want, if we know what we
>want, which is the tricky bit. But (as my draft points out) there
>will always be exceptions, so the tools have to allow for them too.
>
>Here's one that isn't even in my draft. Sometimes an author wants to
>withdraw. Does that need approval from the co-authors?
>
>Regards
>   Brian
>
>On 30/05/2015 10:07, Larry Kreeger (kreeger) wrote:
>> Hi Brian and Benoit,
>> 
>> If authors are added purposefully to a draft without their consent, it
>>is
>> indeed disturbing, but I hate to see IETF cycles spent dealing with
>> investigations if they can be avoided in an automated manner.
>> 
>> Isn't one way to deal with this to build additional mechanisms into the
>> draft submittal confirmation procedure?  I believe that currently, only
>> one of the author's needs to approve submission/update.  If this were
>> changed to require all authors to confirm the original submission, then
>>it
>> would save people-hours investigating and dealing with this.  When
>> submitting an updated draft, only a single author would need to approve
>>if
>> the author list didn't change.  Of course, newly added authors would
>>need
>> to approve as well if the updated draft included a new author.
>> 
>> Thanks, Larry
>> 
>> On 5/29/15 1:55 PM, "IESG Secretary" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>>> IETF community,
>>>
>>> The IESG is planning to publish an IESG statement concerning the
>>> authorship of Internet drafts. This statement is only focused on the
>>> situation where an IETF participant feels he/she has been erroneously
>>> listed as an author on a draft. The statement can be seen here:
>>>
>>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/SurprisedAuthors
>>>
>>> We are seeking community feedback on this statement and welcome input
>>> that will help encourage proper behavior. Please provide any feedback
>>> by June 10, 2015 to either [e-mail] or the IESG directly at
>>> [e-mail].
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Brian and Benoit (on behalf of the IESG)
>>>
>> 
>>