Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis: closing the implicit MX issue

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Thu, 17 April 2008 17:47 UTC

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Dave Crocker wrote:

> Yeah, this "running code" thing is over-rated.

indeed it is.  many people are so accustomed to accepting the problems 
with today's large-scale email operation that they fail to see how 
things could be any other way.  after all, it "works"...sort of.

> It does have one characteristic that seems to be missing from your own 
> varied assertions about nasty impact:  observable data.

there's plenty of observable data to support the assertions about nasty 
impact.

> It also presumes that those implementing code operate wholly 
> independently of those who will operate or use that running code.

no.  it only presumes that when the standard says one thing and the 
needs of operators say something else, that the implementor is placed in 
an awkward position.

> And the claim of more spam was directly addressed as being wrong.
> 
> So perhaps you can show an empirical basis for your claims of doom and 
> gloom?

so perhaps you can show an empirical basis for your claim of superiority ?

I didn't think so.

Keith
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