RE: Regarding "Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service"

Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> Wed, 25 November 2020 16:26 UTC

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Hi Behcet,

the question is not whether FTP works or not. For me the question is whether we need to provide multiple protocols for making our documents available to others.
I am sure the 3GPP can fetch our RFCs also via HTTPS in 2020.

Ciao
Hannes

From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:20 PM
To: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: Regarding "Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service"

Hi Hannes,

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 11:12 AM Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com<mailto:Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>> wrote:
Hi Roman, Hi all,

I wasn’t even aware that we are still offering an FTP service.
It is time to retire the FTP service.

ftp has been used extensively in some places, like 3GPP.
The other day I pressed a link, it turned out to be ftp link
and surprise: it worked as major Web browsers support it.

Behcet

Ciao
Hannes


Hi!



The Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) is seeking community input on retiring the IETF FTP service (ftp://ftp.ietf.org<http://ftp://ftp.ietf.org>, ftp://ops.ietf.org<http://ftp://ops.ietf.org>, ftp://ietf.org<http://ftp://ietf.org>).  A review of this service has found that FTP appears to serve a very small community and HTTP has become the access mechanism of choice.  Given this shift in community usage, reducing the operational complexity of the overall IETF infrastructure seems to outweigh the very limited community served with FTP.



In reviewing the additional impacts of such a service retirement, the dependencies on FTP have been assessed.  Additionally, it has been confirmed that all information currently reachable through FTP will continue to be available through other services (HTTP, RSYNC, IMAP).



In consultation with the Tools team (Robert, Glen, Henrik, Russ, and Alexey), Communications team (Greg), affected SDO liaisons, IAB Chair, and LLC ED, a proposed retirement plan was developed and is available at:



https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/Retiring_IETF_FTP_Service.pdf



The IESG appreciates any input from the community on this proposal and will consider all input received by December 4, 2020 (to account for the upcoming IETF 109 and holidays).



Regards,

Roman

(as the IESG Tools Liaison)

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