Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.

Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> Tue, 20 October 2020 19:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.
From: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>
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Responding to multiple emails at once:

Khaled:

> Could you please do the following request?
> Jay, I think that you are now the responsible person as said by Tim, please delete them ALL, easy thing. 

I am not the responsible person as the standards process is the responsibility of the IESG.  Rob has pointed you at the relevant IESG statement regarding removal of drafts:

	https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/internet-draft-removal/

> This is about RFCs not individual submitted drafts, I still have the right as the only author of all drafts to ask for the deletion, where is the issue?

It is important to remember that you have knowingly and willing assigned copyright in these drafts to the IETF Trust and therefore while you are free to ask you do not have the right to insist upon deletion.  As stated in BCP 79 

  "The authors retain all other rights, but cannot withdraw the above
   rights from the IETF Trust and the IETF."

> Why no one is answering his question …..

The IETF is not a real time organisation and people work across multiple time zones.


Tim:

> Personally, I can't think of any reason to keep the drafts laying around unless there is an intent to use some of its content down the road.  Is that the intent? 

The IESG statement above says "I-Ds provide important historical records for the open and transparent operation of the IETF."

Jay

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