Re: Ombudsteam update

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 11 January 2019 19:20 UTC

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From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: Ombudsteam update
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In article <20190111174301.GA85567@shrubbery.net> you write:
>Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:35:40PM -0500, IETF Chair:
>> The IETF ombudsteam <https://www.ietf.org/contact/ombudsteam/> is a designated group of people who have been selected
>to handle reports of potential harassment in the IETF.
>
>Why are these appointed rather than elected positions?

Beyond what Adrian said, the IETF has no elected positions.  

We have a randomly selected nomcom that chooses most of the other
positions, but the nomcom has no more expertise in personnel or
harassment issues than any other random set of IETF'ers.

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